Question on Training Camp

[Connecticut]

Hi all, now that we have potentials available, I want to brush up on my training camp expectations.

As I understand it, the increase in rating is calculated using the formula (potential rating - actual rating) * % allocation

For example, if Player A has a Speed potential of 98, and Speed actual of 78, and I apply 5%, then (98 - 78) * .05 = 1. So his new actual would be 78 + 1 = 79. So these are the increases I should expect, based on % allocation:
5% = 1
10% = 2
15% = 3
20% = 4
25% = 5
30% = 6 etc

So if I applied 30%, then the post-TC rating would 78 + 6 = 84, correct?

For rounding, as I understand it, it'll round down for under .5, it'll round up for over .5, and in the case of .5, it'll round to the even number. For example
79.1 rounds to 79.
79.25 rounds to 79.
79.5 rounds to 80 (the even number).
79.6 rounds to 80.
80.25 rounds to 80.
80.5 rounds to 80 (the even number).
80.6 rounds to 81.

So for a more complicated example, if Player A has a Speed potential of 98, and Speed actual of 89, and I apply 5%, then (98 - 89) * .05 = .45. So his new actual would be 89 + .45 = 89.45 = rounds to 89. So these are the increases I should expect, based on % allocation:
5% = .45 (89.45 = 89)
10% = .9 (89.9 = 90)
15% = 1.35 (90.35 = 90)
20% = 1.8 (90.8 = 91)
25% = 2.25 (91.25 = 91)
30% = 2.7 (91.7 = 92)

So if I applied 30%, then the post-TC rating would 89 + 2.7 = 91.7 = rounds to 92, correct?

Sorry for the long post. If anyone agrees with this, or sees any flaws in my training camp logic please respond to the post. Thanks!
Rob

[Mike]

Haven't read this stuff in awhile, but it seems complex!

http://laker09.tripod.com/univ/tut/bbtc.html

[Green Bay Bombers]

I find zero faults with this approach.

[Connecticut]

Haven't read this stuff in awhile, but it seems complex!

http://laker09.tripod.com/univ/tut/bbtc.html

Hi Mike, only problem with that site / page is it's based on FBPro '95. We are using FBPro '97

This chart shows how much a player will gain given TC% vs remaining potential a player has. It basically uses the equation from the original post. I have my own spreadsheet, and a tidier one given by a fellow owner (thanks Jimmy!) that I'd be happy to forward.
5% 10% 15% 20% 25% 30% 35% 40% 45% 50% 55% 60% 65%
1 0.05 0.1 0.15 0.2 0.25 0.3 0.35 0.4 0.45 0.5 0.55 0.6 0.65
2 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 1 1.1 1.2 1.3
3 0.15 0.3 0.45 0.6 0.75 0.9 1.05 1.2 1.35 1.5 1.65 1.8 1.95
4 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 1.2 1.4 1.6 1.8 2 2.2 2.4 2.6
5 0.25 0.5 0.75 1 1.2 5 1.5 1.75 2 2.25 2.5 2.75 3 3.25
6 0.3 0.6 0.9 1.2 1.5 1.8 2.1 2.4 2.7 3 3.3 3 3.9
7 0.35 0.7 1.05 1.4 1.75 2.1 2.45 2.8 3.15 3.5 3.85 4.2 4.55
8 0.4 0.8 1.2 1.6 2 2.4 2.8 3.2 3.6 4 4.4 4.8 5.2
9 0.45 0.9 1.35 1.8 2.25 2.7 3.15 3.6 4.05 4.5 4.95 5.4 5.85
10 0.5 1 1.5 2 2.5 3 3.5 4 4 .5 5 5.5 6 6.5
11 0.55 1.1 1.65 2.2 2.75 3.3 3.85 4.4 4.95 5.5 6.05 6.6 7.15
12 0.6 1.2 1.8 2.4 3 3.6 4.2 4.8 5.4 6 6.6 7.2 7.8
13 0.65 1.3 1.95 2.6 3.25 3.9 4.55 5.2 5.85 6.5 7.15 7.8 8.45
14 0.7 1.4 2.1 2.8 3.5 4.2 4.9 5.6 6.3 7 7.7 8.4 9.1
15 0.75 1.5 2.25 3 3.7 5 4.5 5.25 6 6.75 7.5 8.2 5 9 9.75
16 0.8 1.6 2.4 3.2 4 4.8 5.6 6.4 7.2 8 8.8 9.6 10.4
17 0.85 1.7 2.55 3.4 4.25 5.1 5.95 6.8 7.65 8.5 9.35 10.2 11.05
18 0.9 1.8 2.7 3.6 4.5 5.4 6.3 7.2 8.1 9 9.9 10.8 11.7
19 0.95 1.9 2.85 3.8 4.75 5.7 6.65 7.6 8.55 9.5 10.45 11.4 12.35
20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
21 1.05 2.1 3.15 4.2 5.25 6.3 7.35 8.4 9.45 10.5 11.55 12.6 13.65
22 1.1 2.2 3.3 4.4 5.5 6.6 7.7 8.8 9.9 11 12.1 13.2 14.3

[Connecticut]

For my positional training camp, here is what I'm putting in for my QBs ...
5 / 10 / 10 / 15 / 10 / 10 / 30 / 10

My QB Adrian McPherson has these actuals and pots:
79 76 75 89 74 79 96 93
82 95 97 95 93 96 98 98

By those numbers, do you agree this should be his post-TC actuals?
79 78 77 90 76 81 97 94

Camp Complete agrees with those post-camp numbers. BTW, I realize I'm not 100% efficient, but I have another QB on the roster to consider.

Thanks all!
Rob

[Green Bay Bombers]

"Hi Mike, only problem with that site / page is it's based on FBPro '95. We are using FBPro '97" yet, the '95 version still defines all FBPRO9x versions with this: "In approximatly 1-2% of all young players, there is an unusual 'syndrome'. In this syndrome, in a given season, the player will have 1 or 2 skills that will train very poorly, as much as 50% below the indicated improvement. Often there will another skill that will train up to 25% better than expected., Addittionally, the following season, the 'depressed' skill will often train upto 25% better than the formula indicates." [straight fm the orig doc] EG. GBY QB Darian Durant, IN & DI 98 POTS 86 ACT, 98 - 86 = 12 (* 30% = 3.6) actually got 2 for 88 despite formula indicated 89. I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the history here. Perhaps the greatest statement fm that site is the last bullet under 'Several Caveats' "It is strongly recommended that you 'sim' several training camps to fine tune your TC assignments".

[Connecticut]

yeah, my numbers are so far off, its a total crapshoot for me.